Signing Off in Style: Season One Wrap-up

Well, Cinnamon just made a charcuterie board for the big celebration of mate and cheese and crackers. You got pickles? I...

Cinnamon (00:42)
I got meat and cheese. Cooterboard, oh my God. We have went a whole year and I've never said, Caterboard on air.

Erin (00:53)
Now, this is your opportunity, Cooter Board. That's what they call it, I guess, in Danville, Ohio.

Cinnamon (00:56)
Good Lord.vYeah, made me some cooters boards.

Erin (01:03)
But we made it to the season finale of season one, which is a surprise to us because we weren't even necessarily sure if we were doing seasons, huh?

Cinnamon (01:14)
Yeah, I don't think it really was ever a discussion. When we first started, it was more of like, whoo, that was a lot. We're hitting the year anniversary now seems like a really great time to like, exhale for a minute and figure out what the hell this next year is going to look like. And so we're just calling it season two.

Erin (01:37)
Yeah, yeah, well, it's actually super funny because I don't know, we've probably touched on this before, but many of our listeners don't know that, you know, we got into this and we had no damn idea what we were doing. None. Yeah, I just woke up after, here's what happened. I was watching this three hour interview with Travis Howes on, oh my gosh, I can't even remember who was interviewing him now. I went to bed thinking about Travis.

Cinnamon (01:49)
Oh, none, none. No.

That sounds way worse than it is. Yeah. Let's just keep going. Keep going. Go right over that one.

Erin (02:06)
And I know, I mean, in his story, yeah. But then I woke up and I had this moment where I was like, we're gonna do a podcast. And I called Cinnamon and said, hey, guess what? We're gonna do a podcast. And you were kinda like, we are? I don't know, I don't even remember.

Cinnamon (02:28)
I know, I was like, did I miss an email or something? And that's why when I was talking about it or posting about it on social media, I was like, the way you came at me was, we're gonna build a snowman. And you know what? Had we known how much easier a snowman would have been, even in July in Ohio, we may not have actually...

Erin (02:32)
Hahaha!

Hehehehe

Cinnamon (02:55)
gone through with it. So thank goodness we had no idea what we were getting ourselves into.

Erin (03:01)
Right, and all of that said, with the blood, sweat, and tears and breakdowns, lots of tears, lots of lack of sleep, we wouldn't change it for the world because this year has been more than we ever could have even dreamed up. Um.

Cinnamon (03:06)
of tears.

No idea. No idea what was coming our way.

Erin (03:24)
Uh-huh. Yeah, so once I got past this whole story of I have no idea what I'm doing, let's just kind of like rip off the bandaid and jump and see what happens. This thing has been full speed ahead since episode one dropped.

Cinnamon (03:38)
Can we also acknowledge that like that story, the one that you got past was a true story? Like neither one of us knew anything about podcasting. And you, I've never seen anyone that can absorb so much information and retain it and go from being completely ignorant of all things to being

like a pseudo expert. And I'm real clear that if it was left up to me to have figured out how to get it from us just talking to each other to uploaded where people from Bangladesh can listen to it, we would have been done a long time ago. So I think when we first started this, there were some preconceived notions about

Erin (04:12)
barely.

Cinnamon (04:38)
what roles each of us played. And I have to say, you have blown me and everyone else who knows you and everyone else who has come to love you away with what, you know, I just show up. I just show up and I say some shit and I tell you things I know, but honestly, like, E, there is.

We just wouldn't be here if it wasn't for you. And I don't just mean because you had the dream about Travis House, but also because I would have given up and any normal person would have given up by now. But I wish our listeners could understand how deep the fight in you runs because...

Erin (05:13)
Yeah

Cinnamon (05:34)
There was nothing out there that you would need to know to make this the success it's been. That was gonna beat you.

Erin (05:45)
Damn. That was a beautiful acknowledgment.

Cinnamon (05:50)
Thanks.

Erin (05:52)
I said I wasn't gonna cry. Thank you. I appreciate that. And.

Cinnamon (05:56)
You're welcome. Yeah. Well, I try to tell you often in private how amazing I think you are, but I also know that when we put out a fabulous product, people usually don't understand. I certainly didn't what goes on behind the scenes. So I want to make sure it's very clear. Erin is our producer. Erin is our editor. Erin is our sound guy.

Uh, Aaron is our IT person. Um, Aaron is our, you know, road crew and stagehands. And this is her baby and web designer, graphic designer.

Erin (06:22)
Yeah and web designer, and yeah, what the heck, all of a sudden. But that is.

Cinnamon (06:41)
Right. She could get to the beanstalk, the guy up at the top of the beanstalk, if all of her hats were piled on top of her head, she, we could climb her to get up the beanstalk.

Erin (06:55)
It's wild, it's wild, and I wouldn't change it. And here's the thing, like even with like, okay, the logistics of it, so the editing and the recording and the downloading and all the things that goes into it, this has been a seamless process in a sense that when we started, we were like, who are we gonna have on our show that isn't a client? Okay, well, this person's awesome, but

Next thing you know, we blink and we have people reaching out to us left and right to come and be a guest and share their story on the show. We have made such incredible friends and connections, like people that I'm like, I know there is no doubt that you have my back, you are my brother or you are my sister, and this is thick and thin, and we're gonna be on this journey together and supporting their cause as much as they're supporting what we're doing.

Cinnamon (07:36)
Mm.

Erin (07:55)
It really emphasizes how the law of attraction actually really works. When you put out this energy, you are going to receive it back. And when it's with intention and positivity and focus, you can receive those gifts right back at you. So I'm constantly like, this is really weird. Like, this is so weird.

Cinnamon (07:59)
Yeah.

Erin (08:24)
And of course it is, of course it's working because it matters. And people say that it matters.

Cinnamon (08:24)
Yeah.

And the people that have either we have found or have found us that have come on, none of this is anything less than pure authenticity, the passion that they show up with, the like nobody that we have put on the airwaves ever had an ulterior motive other than saving lives.

of first responders. And if that was something that we were concerned about, guess what? You didn't hear it. And in terms of this phenomenal community that we've built, it makes me think of like, do you wanna build a commune? You know, kind of like from frozen, like a son of a snowman. That's what I was saying about the podcast. Like.

Erin (09:22)
Instead of a snowman? Do you want to build a commune?

Cinnamon (09:28)
Do you wanna build a commune? And you know, funny, Kenny Mitchell and I were messaging each other back and forth the other morning and he was like, you know what I think? We should have a weekend retreat for all of After the Tones drops guests. And I was like, that sounds fantastic. And so I said something to Ed and he was like, I won't be here that weekend. And I was like, what if you were our chef? And he was like, what if you paid me?

And so we still have some details to work out. Stand by for further deets.

Erin (10:00)
Hahaha!

Yeah, well, we talked about that when we did our annual planning retreat in January. Remember, we text Jess Flores and we were like, oh, by the way, we need to have some kind of getaway, all of us. But that's what's like, we spent, I spent, we spent a lot of time making these connections with people, either through conferences that Cinnamon's been going to, or through social media where I have been living a lot, following people, acknowledging people, learning more about them. And so by the time they get on our show, it's like,

Cinnamon (10:15)
Yeah.

Erin (10:35)
Oh, I love you. You're our friend. So it makes it so organic. And one of the reasons I bring that up is because one of the cool gifts and blessings that has been shared with us since we started after the tone's drop is the changes that have happened within our guests' lives and the ripple effect that it is creating all the way across the board. So.

Cinnamon (10:37)
We're, we're all ready friends. Yes.

Yeah.

Erin (11:04)
one of the things and you'll get to hear about Jason's experience and his goals, Jason Warren, when we highlight his episode on our break. But the idea that there has been something about being on this show that has changed the trajectory of their life, be it personally, be it socially, there have been people that, spirit, oh yeah, spiritually.

Cinnamon (11:30)
Spiritually?

Erin (11:33)
For sure. We've had people that have reached out to our guests and said, I heard your episode. And because of that, I felt like you were shouting at me to go to therapy. And it's been 27 years or whatever it was of me avoiding it. And because you gave me orders, I got to therapy. And that is some powerful freaking stuff. That is 120% why.

Cinnamon (11:46)
Yeah.

Erin (12:00)
after the tone drop exists. It's not about being entertained, although I must say we are so entertaining. Ha ha ha.

Cinnamon (12:05)
We are so entertaining, mostly to ourselves. I mean, if you're into what we do, like that's great, but we just wanna make each other laugh.

Erin (12:15)
Yeah, but that has been the biggest gift of it all is our goal is to get people information and educated and a better understanding of what's going on in their brain and their body. And by golly, they took it and ran with it and some of them have seeked therapy or outside resources and it's like, holy shit, this thing is working. So, yeah.

Cinnamon (12:41)
Yeah.

Erin (12:44)
So we thank our listener for continuing to show up and share this with their peeps and get it out there in their own communities because that's exactly what this takes.

Cinnamon (12:53)
Well, and I would also encourage folks, like, if you hear something that resonates with you, we provide the contact information of our guests, and please, let them know. I think it's important when, you know, we run up against the brick wall of ego and old school thought, that old guard, that encouragement that is coming through can...

be just what we need to catapult us beyond where we're stuck. And as lovely as it is to hear from our guests who are getting those comments, like, not gonna lie, we'd like to hear them too. So feel free to send them our way because we wanna know who you are. We don't need to just, we do, social, we're stalkers.

Erin (13:46)
We do see them. We see them on social.

Cinnamon (13:51)
But you know, like usually the people that reach out are the ones who wanna be guests, but, and that's great that, I mean, gosh, we have guests lined up basically halfway through 2025, which who in the Hades would have ever thought. But in reality, like this is really hard work moving this movement. And if you are appreciating what we're doing,

you know, typically a podcast is, you know, like, like and follow and rate and review, which we certainly appreciate that too. But that's, that's about algorithms. We want to hear your story. We want to hear, Hey, you had this person on and I listened and unbeknownst to me, I just had tears running down my face and I haven't cried in over 30 years.

So something hit and now I'm gonna go, you know, I talked to my wife and we decided, or I talked to my kids and we decided that now seems like a really good time for me to go get some help.

Erin (14:50)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah, yeah, she's, Siniman is spot on. We would love to hear the ways that maybe you have seeked support or their takeaways that you've gotten from our previous episodes, be it one of the educational ones that we've done, you know, just giving you information, or from one of our guests. And in addition, we want to know what the heck you guys want to hear about. We've talked about this before. It's like, we're in this as

Cinnamon (15:31)
Yes.

Erin (15:34)
a gift and we're in this to offer our services in, you know, not a one-on-one way. Right. So what have you wondered? What do you want to know about? I mean, I will tell you, I didn't know that a podcast would involve like suddenly becoming this massive book reader. Like all of a sudden. Which is super cool. But also there was a reason why I said that.

Cinnamon (15:39)
Education.

Oh my gosh. Yeah.

Well, while you think of it, I'm going to tell you that I forgot to tell you that I finished Giovanni's ring and like, I, I would not say that I cried, but I did want to go scoop him up and rock him and then burp him like a baby.

Erin (16:05)
something.

Did you cry? I cried.

Oh, well, I did send him a message directly after that. And I'll tell you off the air what I said to him. Yeah. Something along the lines of, now you have two clinician friends in your pocket. Ha ha ha.

Cinnamon (16:28)
Okay, yeah, like, and go ahead. Yeah, well, and even like, man, William Young's book, The Nothing That Never Happened, that was like an epiphany for me because that has been this gaping black hole of how do you explain the trauma that happens when nothing happens?

Erin (16:39)
Mm-hmm.

Cinnamon (16:58)
and I couldn't find the, or a lot of nothings. Like that was such a difficult concept. Like I understood what it looked like and I could identify it. I did not know how to explain it or what words to use to articulate what I was trying to express. So good old William coming through with the nothing that never happened. That was such a good read.

Erin (16:59)
or when a lot of nothings happen.

Yeah, for sure. And if you have not read that book, please do. If you, anything that we, any guests that we have that have books or podcasts or some kind of coaching business or whatever, we have all that information on our resource page for a reason. So please hook yourself up and get yourself some because it is good. And William's book is a super easy read.

I do okay with reading. I do a lot better when I read and follow a lot, like listen and follow along in a book. But Williams, I could digest, plus he kind of sounds like us when he talks, like his like interruptive, no BS kind of way. I'm like, you speak our language. That made it easier too, but it is, it's.

Cinnamon (18:01)
Yeah.

When it's also like he was talking directly to you, right? Like the word choice that he uses, it's not like you're an observer, it's like you're getting talked to. And so, and I think subconsciously, I was afraid to not pay attention. Like some ruler would come across my fingers if I look distracted because I was getting talking to.

Erin (18:12)
Mm-hmm.

It's still, there's those aces showing up. Ha ha ha.

Cinnamon (18:39)
Right? Yeah. Can we, yeah, that's another time, another place. But I didn't even go to Catholic school. I didn't go to Catholic school. No. I mean, a couple of times I like snuck into CCD, but that's again, another time, another place.

Erin (18:45)
So Cinnamon, what? You didn't go to Catholic school? No, no, definitely not.

We'll get there. So what exciting things do we have coming up in season two and the rest of 2024, even into 2025? Anything that we get to announce with our listeners?

Cinnamon (19:10)
Well, one of the things that I'm really excited about is some of the people that I have met in my cross country travels that I wouldn't have met otherwise. And I've been, my tour, my national tour, coast to coast, border to border, AKA sleep deficit and...

Erin (19:28)
cross-country tour, your national tour. Ha ha ha.

Cinnamon (19:40)
being alone a lot. These are people that I never in a million years would have ran into, you know? And I, in a matter of a two-day conference, because you're having these deep discussions, whether it's you being vulnerable behind the microphone as a speaker or these intimate conversations, you know, at our resource table.

Erin (19:49)
Mm-hmm.

Cinnamon (20:09)
It's like you fall in love with these people so fast. And because I was going 100 miles an hour all over the place, there was just really no time for us to get any of that out in season one. So I'm looking forward to the O'Barskys and Nicole Junkerman and Giovanni, Giovanni Rocco.

Erin (20:26)
Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm. Yeah, he's darling.

Cinnamon (20:39)
That's gonna be a killer one. So I am, and there's so much education, the educational episodes that we do where it's just you and I. Like I literally was walking up the stairs to come into here to record, to come in here to record. And I was making notes on my note app of

ideas that I wanted to tell you, and that's not even, including the list that we have been building over the last, you know, however many months. But one of them was that I had written down, had something to do with redefining fear. Because I think that

we, I'm a little apprehensive about the word fearless. I'm gonna say that because I think there is value in being afraid and doing it anyway. But I think that we also have a very rigid understanding of what fear is. And it is tricky when someone is able to run into a burning building.

And there's maybe fear that they can handle or fear that they can push through. But there's a fear in coming and hanging out with someone like us in a therapy session. And it can come in all kinds of shapes and sizes like I don't need it or I'm only coming because my wife says I have to, or whatever that story is. And...

So yeah, you can be full of fear and also fearless at the same time. And so we get to redefine that. And hopefully for lots of folks who are out there that have been scooting closer to that line, this might be a breakthrough episode for you. Not this one, but the one that fear, yeah.

Erin (22:55)
the one about fear.

Yeah, I mean, the word that comes to mind for me is more like grit, you know? It takes real grit to be the responder running towards the fire or the shooting or whatever. But there's this other side of it with that fear that, like coming to see us, it's that fear of the vulnerability. And that...

Cinnamon (23:27)
Yeah.

Erin (23:28)
can be some spicy salsa right there, you know, like going there. But anywho, we can talk about that on the episode that clearly we are recording now that I just learned about. So I'm so excited about that. And I do.

Cinnamon (23:41)
Yeah, that was one of the things that I wrote about on the way up the stairs. I knew you'd love it though. So.

Erin (23:46)
I do love it. I will say that funny thing while we're sitting here talking, another guest registration just came through on our website. Yeah, so I don't know. This person must be your person. But somebody that I am also looking forward to that we had to postpone because of thank you, COVID, or some kind of viral infection is Jonathan Hickory. So Jonathan is a law enforcement officer.

Cinnamon (23:52)
Huh?

Hmm

Erin (24:14)
who wrote a book called Break Every Chain, which then was made into a movie with Dean Cain in it, which I thought was funny. You can watch it on Prime, you can watch it on YouTube. You'll hear all about him, but he has a real great message and he talks about his faith and how his faith is one of the big things that saved his life, his marriage, his career, his, who he was. And so we're excited about having Jonathan on, but we have...

I don't want to leave anybody out. We have so many kick-ass people coming on. I'm really excited to have an opportunity to talk about bilateral stimulation interventions, various ones that are super effective, especially with first responders and processing trauma. That's another topic I'm looking forward to. The goal is to get Trevor on, to also be talking about that wherever he is. Yeah. Yeah, he's...

Cinnamon (24:47)
So many good people.

Woo!

Yeah, we lost him in the wind. Well, we're going to have to go send out a search party.

Erin (25:13)
He's busy, but I do want to say too for those analytical folks that if you are on our social media, After the Tones Drop did hit of 10,000 downloads. So that is fantastic and it just keeps growing. You all keep sharing. It's officially in 35 different countries.

Cinnamon (25:15)
tied up.

Woo woo!

Erin (25:37)
and we just got to celebrate that we are now officially in every single continent thanks to South America. Get one download. I was like, you know that person was kind of, that was an accident. They're like, oh, oops, I thought this was something else. Yeah, yeah.

Cinnamon (25:44)
Way to show up, South Thieves!

Well, didn't we think that about Africa too? Remember when we saw Africa and we're like, that they clicked on the wrong button. But I think that was early on. And now we're, well, I was, no, they did it on purpose. They did it on purpose and they knew what they were getting themselves into and they loved it.

Erin (26:01)
Mm-hmm.

Mmm.

Except, yeah, that's right. Canada has been showing up big now. Oh, nothing, I didn't have anything important to say, but yeah, Canada is now following the US and the top runners. So all that means is people are getting value. It's something to celebrate. It's not something to toot our horn. Why it matters is because this is something that people are seeing as an important topic across the entire damn world.

Cinnamon (26:17)
Accept what?

Erin (26:43)
And that.

Cinnamon (26:44)
And we're delivering such important information in a way that a very challenging population is connecting to. And for God's sake, if you hear an episode that you just are moved by, please hit that share button and send it to one of your buddies, a coworker, just anyone, because the more...

we get the word out, the quicker we are gonna get this movement moving and continue to move. And ultimately at the end of the day, it's not only about saving lives in terms of suicide because we have an epidemic, but it's also about saving the quality of lives because there are a shit ton of first responders out there.

who are not as happy and joyful as they could be. And they're, you know, we get one rodeo and I have so many people say to me, I wish I would have come sooner. And I'm like, how do we tell those people, like if we had a crystal ball and we could just show them, things are gonna be so much different when you start acknowledging that there's a challenge.

and look for the solution, but you cannot look for the solution unless you identify that there is a problem. Okay, that's my reel.

Erin (28:19)
Yeah, and you know what the other problem is? Is your mic is slowly starting to go, meh-ow. Yeah, that mic stand sucks. Back again. No, that thing must be, that thing's cheap. It's like Dollar Tree quality. We gotta get you something better. I think I sent you the link, but I had no idea. So yeah, for season two, we're gonna gift you with a new mic stand, because that sucks.

Cinnamon (28:25)
Yeah. Okay, how's that? Shady is back. Right? So it's not just me. Thank you.

Did I order it or did you order it for me? Okay.

Thank you. I appreciate it.

Erin (28:50)
Yeah, but you're absolutely right, Sin. And then, of course, like this clinician coach side, I'm also like, you came exactly at the perfect time, right? Of course, right, yeah, so it is, the both and, or the and both of it. But we, again, just appreciate the constant support and efforts to get this message out there to the folks.

Cinnamon (29:02)
And both, yes.

Erin (29:20)
I think it's important that you understand that we are not gonna just leave you bored until you're lonesome. Although there are 55 episodes by the time we get done because we're gonna be, this one is gonna be, I think, 55. I don't know. There's a lot.

Cinnamon (29:35)
So then they have to average, if you're brand new to it, you're gonna need to listen to 1.3 episodes per day to be caught up in time for when season two rolls out. So is that about math-ish? Yeah, okay.

Erin (29:47)
That's right. That's what I'm saying. Yes. But in the meantime, also, we are doing something fun and, I don't know, could be unique. My husband was the one that kind of gave us the idea because he listens to podcasts all the time. And instead of just having dead air or re-releasing our own episodes, we have had various guests that also do their own podcast, have their own thing going on, all with a different flavor and a different message and a different come from.

And so we will be featuring one of their episodes, each of the four weeks that we are gone, leading up to when we kick off season two. And so we have Jason Warren, Kenny Mitchell, Jess Flores, and William Young's podcasts all being featured, all with a different message, all super important. So make sure when you do check those episodes out that you go to then their...

podcast and follow them and add that to your roster of stuff to listen to because you can never have too many resources in your pocket. It's very valuable information no matter where what profession you're in. Like I realized today, Jess is a was a cop. Kenny's a firefighter. Jason is medic. Well firefighter now, but he was a medic first. And then we have William and corrections. So we just we needed a dispatcher.

you know, we would have had the gamut, but we would have had all of them.

Cinnamon (31:16)
Yeah, that will be for the season, post season two rolling into season three break.

Erin (31:26)
Yeah, so speaking of dispatchers, we will also have Ricardo Martinez within the trenches coming on, coming on. So that would have been hard. He's got a pot. Well, next time we only have four weeks to fill. So yeah, next time we'll have, we'll feature one of his episodes too. But it's exciting. Quality stuff, extra resources. Mm-hmm.

Cinnamon (31:34)
Oh yeah.

Yeah.

amazing guests, like people that we fan girl over are coming on and hanging out with us. And one of my favorite podcasters, I was scrolling through her stuff. And I swear to God, I saw Dolly Parton. She had Dolly Parton on her podcast. And I may have peed my pants a little bit. And then I stopped and I was like, but that is what we are also doing in our world is that we

Erin (31:59)
Mm-hmm.

Cinnamon (32:20)
are getting the Dolly Partons of the first responder mental health domain. You're a Dolly and you're a Dolly and you're a Dolly.

Erin (32:23)
I'm sorry.

That's a layer.

Yeah. Well, that's so funny. Oh my gosh. I can't-

Cinnamon (32:33)
Jolaine, Jolaine. Okay, I'm done.

Erin (32:37)
I can't wait to tell Kenny Mitchell that you called him Dolly Parton because that's what we'll do. We'll get them all shirts that say, I am Dolly Parton. On the front, it'll be like a picture of Dolly Parton and on the back, it'll have the After the Tones Drop logo. And it'll be like that secret code thing.

Cinnamon (32:57)
Like you have to be in the coven to understand.

Erin (33:01)
You have to live in the commune. Yeah.

Cinnamon (33:03)
Yeah. Well, and one of our past guests, I saw him via video on Tuesday and he had on a T-shirt that said eye candy. And I loved it. Oh, my gosh. So I texted you and said, it has inspired me that we need some swag that says ear candy. And so keep an eye out.

Erin (33:32)
Yeah, so that is a great kind of segue into the fact that we are working on some swag. We've had a lot of people ask about that. Some shirts, some hats, some stickers, some challenge coins is really something we're looking forward to. It all takes time. And again, like we said, I am one person. Cinnamon is one person. And this is, and we have a full-time job. So

Cinnamon (33:56)
Yeah, right. We're like clinicians. That is our actual job. This is just the side hustle, despite the poor distribution of hours.

Erin (34:06)
despite that it's not, despite that there is no hustle in it, just like energy hustle, but no financial hustle, which leads me to say that if you are really getting value out of the show and you want to continue to support us in making this happen, obviously there is a financial investment in creating this content, getting it loaded. We do have some people helping us with production now that, you know, the cost money. We,

Cinnamon (34:11)
I'm out.

Stay one-paid.

Erin (34:36)
We spend a lot of time in different conferences and areas like that, which we get to pay to be resources at to feature after the tone's dropped. So folks know that this exists. So if you're finding value in this, we would be honored if you would consider going to our website, afte and quote unquote, buying us a coffee. So it is a way that you can.

donate to what we're doing, support the cause, support our efforts, keep us going so that we can keep this important information out there. So yeah, if you feel so called, we would really, really greatly appreciate that financial support. And obviously, I think it might create a little emotional support. I kid, but yeah. Gosh, it's sad, isn't it? But.

Cinnamon (35:21)
Oh my gosh. Yeah, I'm like, look, they like us. They really, really like us.

Erin (35:30)
Yeah, and then of course, it's like, continue to share this with your folks. Continue to get this resource out there. Like us. We are slowly on, we're on YouTube, but not really on YouTube. It's just, we'll get there eventually. But.

Cinnamon (35:46)
but there's only one of each of us. Listen, listen, put it on speaker and listen to it at the kitchen table in the firehouse or when you are in your cruiser or in the, wherever you are, there's ways to, not only just sharing an episode, but being able to use

the episodes and our discussion to prompt your own discussion in your own agency. And part of what Erin did to convince me of doing this was even if nobody listens, we can use it as homework. And hand to God, I have assigned, I don't even know how many clients to listen to the podcast, right? Because

Erin (36:21)
Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

On our break. Mm-hmm. Like in between sessions. Yeah.

Cinnamon (36:44)
Yeah, I'm like, this makes everything move so much faster. If you can listen to Erin and I explain some things outside of that hour that you have with us, so you are more educated about whatever we were gonna teach you and we can make the most of that hour together. So we know magic is happening just from listening, whether you're alone with a spouse or with a crew.

Erin (36:48)
Mm-hmm.

Cinnamon (37:14)
or your partner, whatever that looks like.

Erin (37:19)
Yeah. Amen, sister. So yeah, we can take, we can take, it's funny. It's like we're not even taking a break because we're going to be hustling. And we have six interviews alone in May, not to mention all of the other stuff that we want to get recorded. A couple of conferences. Yeah. Oh, I was just. Mm-hmm.

Cinnamon (37:40)
Ooh!

I was just gonna say, go ahead, you tell them, you tell them. And then I'll see if you cover everything I wanna cover and then I'll fill in, go ahead, go ahead.

Erin (37:52)
Yeah, so I was going to say a couple conferences, one in New Jersey and with First Responder conferences and then one in... When is Jersey? It's the 13th and the 14th, right, of May.

Cinnamon (38:04)
Yes, and I'm gonna screw this up, but it's Hasbrook?

Erin (38:07)
Nope, we can't. Hasbrook Heights? Howlsbrook?

Cinnamon (38:13)
I know it's, I can see it visually. I just don't, I'm not super confident yet on how to say Hasbrook, but it's definitely Heights.

And even if I am saying it correct, it's still not gonna sound like it would coming from a native New Jerseyan, which I don't even know how to fake that.

Erin (38:25)
And we also don't have a Jersey accent.

Right. So there's still spots available. If you want to hit that one up by the time this releases, it's really like only the following week. And then we also have the first responder symposium that is being hosted by the Kentucky first responder peer support team. That's going to be in Erlinger, Kentucky at the St. Elizabeth Training and Education Center on the 21st and 22nd of May.

two-day event with an evening spouse event on the 21st. They've worked real, real hard. This is year three. They keep stepping up their game. There is gonna be service animals and therapy animals and Jake Clark from Save a Warrior and Conrad Weaver with the PTSD 911 thing. Yeah, yeah.

Cinnamon (39:26)
PFC 911. Yes.

Erin (39:30)
is gonna be there with one of the people that was actually featured on that movie. We have our one and only beautiful, hottest host ever, Cinnamon giving her presentation. Ha ha ha. She's gonna be presenting on her ACEs presentation, which if you haven't experienced it, it's really, the aha moments are.

Cinnamon (39:43)
I wondered where you were going with that. I'm like, what hottie is gonna be there? And where do I find them?

Erin (40:00)
Incredible, we've got, there's Rocco from Camp Hero. Yep, and Kentucky Peer Support Critical Incident team is gonna be there talking about the importance of going through that program. I mean, just bam, bam. Yeah, mm-hmm, yeah. So, did I say peer support?

Cinnamon (40:04)
Camp Hero.

Oh, the post-critical incident seminar? Yeah.

I do believe that you did. That's why I was like, oh, isn't this what you mean? But I did it in a way that it could have just continued and it would have been smooth, but nevermind.

Erin (40:23)
Okay, well, yes, thank you for the correction.

Yeah.

No, that's all right. I don't need to be smooth. So anyways, I say all that to say, if that's something you're interested in, and I'll definitely make sure that the links to both of those conferences are in the show notes, because guys, here's a deal. We get it. I just made a video about it today. It's like, you know, you get a conference and you get a conference, but the reality is that these are so important because you can fake.

Cinnamon (40:36)
Okay.

Erin (40:59)
You can pretend like you don't need it and that's great. And just go in there and be like, I'm just collecting this information. It's an opportunity to go in and hear people out, hear people that have your same story, get educated, find a group of individuals that understand and that want to be there to help. And it's just very important stuff. And it's fun and you get to eat donuts and lunches and.

You know.

Cinnamon (41:29)
And last year for Kentucky, every snack box had a really cute note from a little kid, thanking our first responders. So I don't know if that's happening again this year, but it was adorable. And we are also going to be tabling. So we are a sponsor at both the New Jersey Conference and the Northern Kentucky Conference in Erlinger. So we would love...

Erin (41:41)
Aww.

Cinnamon (41:58)
if you stopped by and said hello and told us in person about your favorite episode, or just came to hang out, maybe watch us try to eat a hot meal, like all of the things that get to happen when you sit at a table.

Erin (42:18)
I've never eaten a hot meal at a conference ever, not once. I don't even really know that I eat.

Cinnamon (42:20)
No, mm-mm. I did have a lovely gentleman who rubbed my back. This was so, oh my God, this is hilarious. When we were in Ocean City, he watched me not ever eat a hot meal. And so he sat next to me and basically like kept people away so I could eat my meal. And then he had to intermittently be like, slow down, slow down, take your time.

We got this and was like rubbing my back. Like it was, I felt like I had my own personal like nurse. It was lovely. He knows who he is.

Erin (42:58)
And perfect timing too. So more than anything, we want to tell you how much we appreciate each and every one of you. We love you, we honor you. We are so proud of you being part of this movement by even just listening. Even if you've never shared, it's a secret. Maybe you listen like in your closet or something. It doesn't matter because you care enough to take that time to support after the tones drop, to support this effort. And so again, to continue supporting us.

Cinnamon (43:01)
Yeah.

Erin (43:27)
Please go on afterthetonstrop.com and buy us a coffee so we can keep this thing going. It'll make sense when you get there. Please continue to share the content with people that you think would find value in it. Please reach out and let us know what topics you wanna hear about so that we can provide that information for you and you feel like you have a good handle on whatever that topic might be. This is something that we are obviously all in together.

There is no I in this process. It's a we thing and we couldn't do this without you.

Cinnamon (44:06)
There's also an I in firefighter. There's an I in police officer. There's a fire, an I in corrections officer and an I in dispatcher, but there is no I in team. Okay. Yeah.

Erin (44:19)
Yeah

We'll see you for season two, we love you.

Cinnamon (44:25)
Bye!